NY-CAN-NY mailing list is for all those genealogy researchers who have
ancestors that traveled from Canada to New York State or New York State
to Canada. It is hopeful that we will get a number of listers from
both Canada and New York State to help one another and listers from
other states and countries with information that pertains to their country/state.
This would include census dates and information, civil records, church
records, nationalization and citizenships laws and records, counties',
cities', towns' and villages' records, etc. etc.
This is the main site for the mailing list. It includes instructions on how to subscribe and unsubscribe to the list and other addresses that will be helpful for the NY-CAN-NY lister. There are guidelines for the list, links for both areas, links for Canada, links for New York State and other interesting information. Once the list gets moving, a surname registry will be added, along with other pages as the need develops.
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if the information is wrong.
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as such until it is proven or commonly accepted as fact.
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places of all vital events if known, along with enough other family members so that
the reader can positively identify if they are researching the same family.
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Use the following URL for information
on Genealogy lists:
Please do not hesitate to contact
me at any time with questions, suggestions or problems
you may have regarding the list.
Family Tree Guidebook: Everything You Need to Know to Trace Your Genealogy Across North America
by Family Tree Magazine
Directory of Genealogical and Historical Libraries, Archives and Collections in the Us and Canada
by Dina C. Carson
Births: 1869-1905 Marriages: c. 1801-1920 (Note: There are many gaps in pre-1869 marriage records) Deaths: 1869-1930 Check out more Archival information at: http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/interloan/vsmain.htm If you are in Canada you can order these films through Inter Library Loan. If in the US you can order film from the LDS or ask a Canadian Volunteer to look it up for you.
Toronto Library provides street directory lookups online at: http://www.tpl.toronto.on.ca/ask_adu_index.jsp The library is very good and you can keep asking them for lookups each time they fill a request but you are restricted to 3 directory lookups at a time. You can find where they lived in Toronto and how long using these directories.
Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/
The Ontario Locator http://www.geneofun.on.ca/ontariolocator/search.html Use the search engine and when you find the town and county be sure to click on the town name because it will give you much more information on that town and it's history.
The Ontario GenWeb sites for other clues. http://welcome.to/ontariogenweb If you go to their County/District pages you will find more information on each of the Ontario Counties.
There are hundreds of online lists and links to lists going to Canada at Olive Tree Genealogy's ships Passenger Lists online for Canada http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp01.shtml There are also search engines to search various databases of ships to Canada at http://www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger_tocanada.html and http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml
This one is a portal to all the Canadian provinces/territories and their own links .
Good info about early transportation inland on sites concerning the Great Lakes.
http://www.gllmm.org/ and http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/glpassengers/steamship_routes_1848.asp
Early Ontario records are on this site http://www.tbaytel.net/bmartin/earlyont.htm
Immigrants to Canada http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/thevoyage.html Provincial Archives of Newfoundland and Labrador http://www.gov.nf.ca/panl/ Canadian Privateers: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~jacktar/privateering.html Newfoundland Genweb site http://www.nfgenweb.com Newfoundland Grand Banks site: http://ngb.chebucto.org/
Gross Ile, Famine Island, Irish Memorial http://www.angelfire.com/ny/views/grosse.html
The Ontario Vital Statistics Project
The site has been created to house transcriptions of Ontario Birth Registrations,
and now has a good representation of most Ontario counties and districts.
Daily postings are highlighted at the top of this page
Archives of Ontario
Bridging the Past, Present and Future